I just have to say thank you for this, I have been checking since the patch for your builds to return to us. So, thank you, thank you, thank you. Used your pre-patch build, read every comment, followed all your research, and generally improved as a player because of you. For the first time ever, I have actually registered here just to upvote you, and I wish I could do it again.
I think for the last slot Iron Maiden is actually an enormous source of damage on everything except the TTK practice dummy (since it doesn't fight back). Basically everything enemies do count as a "power' including normal attacks so it reliably procs once a second at least making it basically the highest damage DoT you have even without the Talent or Chaos Overloard.
It's after you use Unmake Reality (Signature), the Chaos energy circle (Spirit) glows bright and you teleport as much chaos energy you have until it runs out and it goes dark color again. Sometimes it refreshes again after sometime...
I am using this build on Xbox and really enjoying it however I am having a hard time finding a cape with that trait that converts chaos energy to power. Does anyone know if this thing exists on console? Also, the rank 3 stat for the warlocks eye is different on console than here and I was wondering if we should still be using it? The rank 3 warlocks on console has +20% power duration. I think we can benefit from energy damage right? CCR rank 3 is +2000 health. IDK if we benefit greatly from power duration or its better to take the health on this squishy character? Any help would be appreciated
What artifacts would be good to use whle trying to get the Advanced Reserve Electrical Generator drop ? Not having any luck farming it so far either , Bugle drops nothing and Electro doesn't spawn as much as the others ?
Because im a ps4 player and we dont have uniques, please coukd you tell me what i should be building for... What offensive stats etc, as im struggling to do your rotation as i don't have enough chaos energy.
Mmh.. there are so many differences between the two versions that I'm not sure how much I can help. Her signature's cooldown is reduced by spirit cost reduction on ps4 too? If so you should aim for 50% reduction first and foremost, then build a good amount of chaos. On cosmic I'd try to get a combination of critical hit rating or Intelligence + critical damage rating + brutal damage rating on slot124, the same slot3 as the one I have in the build and I'm not sure what can you roll on slot5 so I can't give you an advice on that.
Thanks for this information, i have a faint idea in what im supposed to be building around... and ill try to find this reduction thing cause that sounds extremely useful.
Hello, I'd like to thank you for the build as I really like it so far, I'm a new player joining the game on ps4, your build made scarlet witch my first hero and build. I do have a simple noob question compared to the rest of comments, I don't understand the part and role of chaos blast in the build even with the second talent, I'm sure im missing something, and thank you so much again :D
Hey! I'm glad you found the guide helpful even if it's for a different platform :) Chaos Blast has 5% chance to proc a random chaos effect when used, however, this proc effect has 1s internal cooldown; you could just spam Chaos Blast and ignore Chaotic Hex altogether.
Chaotic Hex does more damage so in order to maximize damage you should spam Chaotic Hex and use Chaos Blast just once every second to proc the extra effect, I think it'd be rather clunky to do with a controller so I suggest you using Chaotic Hex when you have to charge the Chaos bar and Chaos Blast when you are in overload.
Another q, i havent be able to get gom yet, but i have bowazon, river of the soul and storm of giant magi. Both have power duration and seem good, or should i stick with bowazon in the mean time?
I am confused on how the implant works, the buff is activated when she is under 85% of overload only? Or is also activated when you are building your chaos bar?
When you go under 15% Chaos you get a buff that gives you 1500dr and 100cr and it lasts 10s (affected by power duration) so as long as you hit the 15% threshold once every 15s (depending on power duration but you should probably have around 50%).
If you use a cosmic slot3 (and you should) you won't be able to achieve 50% spirit cost reduction, MH.info has yet to update the cosmic gear so I didn't set a cosmic in that slot but I mentioned it in the notes. Cosmic affixes on artifacts don't stack so you can only get 10%.
Mmh, that's a tough one. I totally forgot about that ring and I think it has potential! I hate that right now her DPS is so random that I can't really tell how good area dmg and spirit are for her and the only mean of comparison is the dps dummy, however, I'm pretty sure they are so close that I couldn't really tell the difference :\ I'll add it to the rings recommendations.
I have been using your build with few changes on artifacts for a few months now and thank you for it, however i have been seeing many people using warlock instead of bow, i dont want to lose 200 odin testing it, soo will be very helpful to know if you did.
also what do you think about hydra agent medallion i have a pretty good roll on that one, but all my c doom have awful rolls on power duration.
Don't buy the Bow, yeah it's the superior choice among the two right now but it's getting nerfed on TC and I'll switch back to Warlock as soon as the patch hits live servers. Try to get a Doom with a good power duration roll, nothing comes even close in term of DPS :P
Mmh, a bad cosmic doom is still probably better than a purple one, I'd stick with the cosmic one.
For Infinity, I didn't do a lot of math regarding which nodes is the most effective at lower amounts of IP but in my opinion you should spend them in Deep Thought (mind gem) up until you have 150 points spent in that gem and then Temporal Loophole (space gem) until you have 150 points in there.
After that I'd spend them in Energy (reality gem) until you have 150 points in that gem and then Strike Through (power gem) until you have 150 points in that gem,
What do you use, Bowazon or god of mischief because at ur ttk video evidently u seem to use GOM and not Bowazon
Also a large number of the player base doesnt have Stone of Jordan and its a little confusing seeing in builds an item that doesnt exist anymore so what are good alt for ring slot
Yeah you are right, I was using Bowazon but I found GoM to be more efficient, I just forgot to edit the guide :P
Sling Ring or ICP are good substitute for SoJ (Sling Ring being the superior choice among the two), a week ago I had Sling Ring in the build layout but a lot of players how did I manage to get so much Chaos and when I told them I was using SoJ they asked me to update the guide to reflect that lol. I'm gonna make a little note in the description about the rings.
Thanks for the build but have some questions. Do you use this infinity layout on your ttk video? I have same gear and %50 less base health on infinity but we have same hp. Either your health rolls are really low or you use different layout. And I notice that you don't use positive outcome talent. I guess you use the 3rd one instead to boost up the chaos damage for the video. Do you have anything else different from this buid? I was kinda sad since I couldn't pull that good time on dummy. I don't have the ring and I have 1000 infinity so it was kinda sad that I couldn't do atleast a close time.
It's the same with the exception that I don't have any points in the Space Gem (they are spent in INT); as you said I'm also using Command Chaos instead of Positive Outcome since the TTK video is mostly to showcase single target DPS.
There are some other differences like the slot3, I'm using a cosmic with cr/spirit to dr/cdr + 876 dr and atk speed proc, I also have +1000 dr on signature on core instead of 50% shield (I prefer the shield in real content tho) and I'm using GoM instead of Bowazon (I'm still testing them and I'm not sure which one is better).
I think it has the potential to be BiS, I'd use it over Zola or Implant (I'm not sure at the moment). I say it has the potential to be BiS because it allows you to switch to a cosmic slot2 with cr/cdr/bdr and still keeping 50% spirit cost reduction for her signature.
Hi, remember your guides from 1-2 years ago as well, always great, though I would really love to see and updated in-depth guide on the forums.
My question right now, as I'm coming back from before the update, what 80 legendary should I go for? I Warlock's Eye still the best, is Gungir still worth it or is the bow the way to go?
Reality Shred is bugged right now, it allows you to create 2 chaos rift zones and BOTH of them do damage, so it's mandatory for DPS. As soon as they fix the bug, Bad Luck could be a viable alternative (I'm using it in the Skrull term video).
I'm not planning on making a forum post, I had a bad experience with gazillion's forums so I'm not really looking forward to deal with all their bugs. As far as legendary goes, Apollo is the best by a large margin, the proc on rank5 hits for a round million which is huge :D
Furthermore, how do you feel about going for Bad Luck talent since I'm pretty much using Iron Maiden in the rotation? And I'm pretty low on crit change, only around 40%.
I wanted to ask if you use Chaos rift twice, cause the damage seems to be stacking and I couldnt tell from the videos if you're using it once or twice.
Yeah the quality of the video isn't great, my apologies. You open up with Unmake reality then Beasts from Beyond + Chaos Rift + Ravenous Binding, hold down Chaotic Hex and tap Chaos Blast every 1.5s/2s, after 8s cast BfB + RB again and Chaos Rift only in case you didn't get one to proc with Chaos Blast since its cost is quite high.
Her own slot5 is fine, there are a couple of Boss Uniques that are better than her slot5 (and worse than Jinn) that you may use as alternative and those are Cobra's Hood (Mr. Hyde) and Octobot controller (Doc Ock)
Mmh, I didn't updated the guide in a while because I'm testing various combinations of cosmic gear and I want to be sure that they work before updating the guide, that said, Cybernetic Implant is definetely a great choice for Wanda, assuming you have a good chunk of power duration to make use of the buff.
EDIT: I just check the numbers on the Implant, I'm not sure if I'd use it over Oshtur, since Oshtur works exactly like the Implant (even if you drop below 90% you'll still get the 2000 DR for a period of time which seems to be rather long.
Yes but the 300 CE should make up for any loss of uptime, after all we use Gibborim instead of Atlantis so I'd assume that the 300 spirit would be really valuable.
I'm also running Cosmic Crossbones Credentials and Cosmic Sinister's Diamond insted of HoD/GoK, have you tried them? Personally I just dont have a Cosmic HoD yet but I dont feel like it's better than either of those and it feels like it takes a while to farm one, I have a Cosmic GoK but it feels like a sidegrade at best and I like the extra defense from Sinister's Diamond since I dont have a armored catalyst.
I'm planning on making another artifacts chart in the future, I mean I already made one but I didn't know that the crit/brut formula changed so I scrapped it, after that I made another one but then I realized I got the formula wrong (AGAIN) and I scrapped that too.
Sadly, the gear selection of this guide is based on the second chart so I'm not 100% sure it's the best combination, as soon as I find the time to remake the chart I'll update the guide.
Hi nc build I like it a lot one thing I cant get right is the rotation while in overload, is it worth using chaotic Hex while in overload or should I use chaos blast as the main spender and fill with the other skills? I dont get what benefits chaotic Hex gets while in overload Also Iron maiden dosent benefit at all from Bow of a Apollo, is the overal Dps benefit this better with bow that with eye that benefit's even Iron maiden? sry for long post I just want to get better with her :P Thnx a lot in advance :)
Chaotic Hex always fire 5 hexes while in overload (normally it's a random number between 1 and 5) also it will always hit for the maximum damage roll. Chaos Blast should only be used to proc a random power while you are in overload and there's a 1 second cooldown on that effect so it's not worth spamming it. Bow of Apollo damage procs are extremely good, it wins even if it doesnt affect iron maiden!
So, Wanda's chaos cost change can't go below 0% in the spreadsheet, but you can still keep on adding it to get that 50% cooldown reduction on her sig. You can even go way past that although it won't make any difference. Right?
When in combat, I'm capping the cd on her sig with only 35 points in calculated efficiency, that's why I'm asking.
What cosmic affixes would you recommend for the 2 last artis? I'm guessing +1 attributes and health or defense (since we can't use sig cd reduction).
And lastly, I love your guides! Hope you give Spidey some love when he's ready for builds here :)
Exactly, it won't make a difference, every %spirit cost reduction beyond 50% is wasted.
As far as Cosmic Affixes goes, I'd like do to more testing and I'm currently farming shield supply points so I'm not sure when I'll be able to get some cosmic arti. Signature cooldown works even with her, with 50% cost reduction and -10% sig cd it goes down to 18s, which is great since it means more uptime on overload.
I was thinking something like Spirit/-%Spirit Costs/-%sig cooldown + something defensive because to be honest, I don't really like the +1 all compared to to other stuff there.
I'd go with either dodge or HP. Since we have no access to dodge (unless you use perseus or fandral bless) from and eHP standpoint it's the best stat to increase.
I am struggling with the rotation both before Chaos is active, and while Chaos is active. You also mentioned using Chaos Hex 3 x, then Chaos Blast. What is the reason behind this? Trying to understand the character mechanics better to play more effectively. Great guide! Also what would you recommend for alternative slot 1 and 5, as I dont have a Frag or Ess of Jinn. Thanks!
The reason behind that lies in the fact that Chaotic Hex has a slight windup when you use it after another power, which means that doing hex > blast > hex > blast is not worth it because of the aforementioned windup and because blast has 1s cooldown on the chaos proc. I found that doing x3 hex > blast was better x2 hex > blast, I'm not entirely sure why, it's probably because of windup on hex.
Also, while you aren't on Overload, you can use Blast once every ~3 seconds it's a DPS loss if it doesn't proc a chaos effect and apparently, blast gives spirit regen over 3 seconds (most likely a bug).
Thank you Cerneris! That was very helpful! During Overload, is there any abilities that I should be primarily spamming? It seems just the Hex x 3, followed by blast? other abilities on cooldown?
While in overload, Beasts from Beyond and Chaos Rift deal x2 damage. For example, their damage range goes from 1 to x, (where x is whatever number greater than 1) when casted in overload the damage range goes from x to x, which roughly doubles their damage output.
Chaos Rift cost is quite high, I tend to cast it when I'm almost out of chaos, even if you have like 10 chaos left, you can still use it and it will only cost 10 chaos :P
I hold Chaotic Hex's button and fire Chaos Blast once every 3 Chaotic Hex, I know it's a bit messy but you can pretend Chaos Blast is a 2seconds cooldown power instead of a main power.
After the BUE, critical stats (cr/cdr/br) are more important, we lost roughly 800 crit/brutal rating since the old chaos magic passive was removed. This means that, generally, crit and brutal artifact such as Hand of Doom, Arnim Zola, Essence of Dread are more valuable than items with just damage rating such as Mental Focus Headband.
Mental Focus Headband translates to 1150 dr + 300 cdr, meanwhile Cyke T-Shirt has 1160 dr + 180 cdr + 600 area damage (most of her DPS comes from area tagged powers so it's cool).
Not anymore. All the stats properties have changed. If you put your mouse over the "Intelligence" stats you'll understand what it means! Also, her trait is Energy/Intelligence, so the more you get, the better your damage will be! ;)
As Niiwa said, Intelligence works differently now, it doesn't give summon damage but it gives 160 damage rating (4% damage rating) to every hero with Intelligence as trait, you can check your hero's trait by opening the power panel and hovering over the first icon in the talent tree.
Intelligence also gives 60 critical damage so it's better than Energy.
My bad, I didn't notice it :P It's fine for now but I think once people get a lot of Infinity, a system that allows you to tell which nodes to prioritize could be a good idea so that it helps both veteran and newcomers!
I use your Awesome Build, but with two different artefacts : Cosmically Enhanced broken Crown instead of Cybernetic Implant, and Crossbones Teaching Credentials instead of Gem of the Kursed. I have less damage reduction but much more DPS. No difficulty in cosmic patrols and cosmic terminals or Raids. But I don't go in CDR with Scarlet Witch. I prefer Hulk.
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Great work as usual, Cerneris! +1 upvote for you! ;)
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now that an arc reacto cosmic with +1 exists is it worth over implant?
Thnx a lot in advance :)
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The new cosmic siege targetting system would straight up be comparable even with GoK (though in this case, you would use both siege + GoK
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Chaotic Hex does more damage so in order to maximize damage you should spam Chaotic Hex and use Chaos Blast just once every second to proc the extra effect, I think it'd be rather clunky to do with a controller so I suggest you using Chaotic Hex when you have to charge the Chaos bar and Chaos Blast when you are in overload.
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Out of curiosity tho, is chaos warp with the second talent any good to replace chaos blast with?
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thanks for the guide!
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also i was wondering about 3 10% redc sig, i mean shouldnt they stack over the 50%? Having a cd of hmmm 10sec? Or they dont stack?
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also what do you think about hydra agent medallion i have a pretty good roll on that one, but all my c doom have awful rolls on power duration.
thanks for all the help!
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For Infinity, I didn't do a lot of math regarding which nodes is the most effective at lower amounts of IP but in my opinion you should spend them in Deep Thought (mind gem) up until you have 150 points spent in that gem and then Temporal Loophole (space gem) until you have 150 points in there.
After that I'd spend them in Energy (reality gem) until you have 150 points in that gem and then Strike Through (power gem) until you have 150 points in that gem,
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also i only have 300 IP, in which order should i spend it?
thanks for the reply!
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What do you use, Bowazon or god of mischief because at ur ttk video evidently u seem to use GOM and not Bowazon
Also a large number of the player base doesnt have Stone of Jordan and its a little confusing seeing in builds an item that doesnt exist anymore so what are good alt for ring slot
Thnx a lot in advance :)
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Sling Ring or ICP are good substitute for SoJ (Sling Ring being the superior choice among the two), a week ago I had Sling Ring in the build layout but a lot of players how did I manage to get so much Chaos and when I told them I was using SoJ they asked me to update the guide to reflect that lol. I'm gonna make a little note in the description about the rings.
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There are some other differences like the slot3, I'm using a cosmic with cr/spirit to dr/cdr + 876 dr and atk speed proc, I also have +1000 dr on signature on core instead of 50% shield (I prefer the shield in real content tho) and I'm using GoM instead of Bowazon (I'm still testing them and I'm not sure which one is better).
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My question right now, as I'm coming back from before the update, what 80 legendary should I go for? I Warlock's Eye still the best, is Gungir still worth it or is the bow the way to go?
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Furthermore, how do you feel about going for Bad Luck talent since I'm pretty much using Iron Maiden in the rotation? And I'm pretty low on crit change, only around 40%.
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EDIT: I just check the numbers on the Implant, I'm not sure if I'd use it over Oshtur, since Oshtur works exactly like the Implant (even if you drop below 90% you'll still get the 2000 DR for a period of time which seems to be rather long.
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Sadly, the gear selection of this guide is based on the second chart so I'm not 100% sure it's the best combination, as soon as I find the time to remake the chart I'll update the guide.
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one thing I cant get right is the rotation while in overload, is it worth using chaotic Hex while in overload or should I use chaos blast as the main spender and fill with the other skills? I dont get what benefits chaotic Hex gets while in overload
Also Iron maiden dosent benefit at all from Bow of a Apollo, is the overal Dps benefit this better with bow that with eye that benefit's even Iron maiden?
sry for long post I just want to get better with her :P
Thnx a lot in advance :)
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Ty for ur replie :)
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When in combat, I'm capping the cd on her sig with only 35 points in calculated efficiency, that's why I'm asking.
What cosmic affixes would you recommend for the 2 last artis? I'm guessing +1 attributes and health or defense (since we can't use sig cd reduction).
And lastly, I love your guides! Hope you give Spidey some love when he's ready for builds here :)
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As far as Cosmic Affixes goes, I'd like do to more testing and I'm currently farming shield supply points so I'm not sure when I'll be able to get some cosmic arti. Signature cooldown works even with her, with 50% cost reduction and -10% sig cd it goes down to 18s, which is great since it means more uptime on overload.
I was thinking something like Spirit/-%Spirit Costs/-%sig cooldown + something defensive because to be honest, I don't really like the +1 all compared to to other stuff there.
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I'd go with either dodge or HP. Since we have no access to dodge (unless you use perseus or fandral bless) from and eHP standpoint it's the best stat to increase.
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Thanks for the reply.
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Also, while you aren't on Overload, you can use Blast once every ~3 seconds it's a DPS loss if it doesn't proc a chaos effect and apparently, blast gives spirit regen over 3 seconds (most likely a bug).
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Chaos Rift cost is quite high, I tend to cast it when I'm almost out of chaos, even if you have like 10 chaos left, you can still use it and it will only cost 10 chaos :P
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Mental Focus Headband translates to 1150 dr + 300 cdr, meanwhile Cyke T-Shirt has 1160 dr + 180 cdr + 600 area damage (most of her DPS comes from area tagged powers so it's cool).
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Intelligence also gives 60 critical damage so it's better than Energy.
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